The world badly needs an advice and that’s why I am here
Access to YouTube is forbidden in Turkey. The reason is a video that includes insult to Atatürk who is the world-famous Turkish leader (1881-1938).
tansu Says:
Good work people.
wikipedia has kurdisthan map. Block it..
CNN has “midnight express” stuff, block it..
BBC has Armenian Genocide videos, block it..
Unblock your minds idiots.
murat Says:
Freedom is not “saying bad things” to a leader of a nation.
Ataturk was not a leader like the others.Still you can see his photos in people’s wallets and their shops on the wall.
Open Youtube and search “Midnight Express”.You will see a person.Listen him and learn the truth.
sabina Says:
i can´t believe it!!!! some days ago, I´ve found a tube of the new film about Nazim Hikmet: Mavi gozlü dev http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZgKVfp2a58o
What happens about it??? Nobody in Turkey will be able to see it???
(
I love your country, but you have serious problems there…
sabina Says:
and I admire also Ataturk!!!
childofwind Says:
today is january 19 2008 and youtube was forbidden again in turkey
who knows which fucking man uploaded what a fuck videa
turkishguy Says:
Someone has uploaded a insultfull video of Atatürk therefore turkey has blocked Youtube . what an intelligent solution. every people except turks will see it and we wont be able to react . just another stupid decision of stupid turkish laws. by the way i am turkish and live in turkey and i accept it : yes we are idiot . Ataturk himself wouldnt let Youtube to be blocked. i think this is the succes of the people who uploaded the video . yeah a full country can not reach to youtube anymore . if turks keep to be idiot there will be much more victories of turk and ataturk haters .
Ronnie Says:
Unbelievable weak behavior, freedom of speech is a right and cannot be banned nor forbiden by anyone on this planet. Of course I believe that freedom of speech goes together with respect and respectful behavior, but to ban this kind of stuff will make it go underground and thus much more dangerous. There should always be room for discussion. The more people disagree with a certain video and/or picture, the more likely it will vanish by itself.
nikita Says:
After having lived in Turkey for about 8 years I know that Turkish people don’t ,usually, think for themselves. The are educated by brainwashing. Not by thinking. So they are taught that Atatürk, who only has been their “leader” for about 15(?) years, was the best thing that has ever happened to them. That he wasn’t the reason that 10.000s of people have been killed. And if by accident they start thinking they say: yeah, but is was necessary, it was for a good cause. Being a teacher in Turkey myself I know what I am talking about.
Well being a European by birth I would say: please don’t let Turkey enter the E.U., not yet. Don’t get me wrong: I chose to live here in Turkey because I love it here, and the Turks but with their double standards they can cause a lot of problems. They generally ignore things they don’t want to see and they are good at it.
Mind you I used the words generally and usually. There are enough Turkish people who do their best to live in the 21st century.
nikita
Johnny Says:
Well, I’m not turkish, but i live in turkey for now, great people, diverse culture, you can’t really
put turkish people in one category! each city each town differs, overall they’re nice people,
and a very hard working people that i myself think wow how can they handle this,
the only thing turkey needs, is to let loose and be exposed to other cultures and languages
Media wise, the movies in english need to be translated in captions!!! so they can learn
from TV shows, and Movies at least!!! i wish they would do that, turks aren’t dumb
it’s the system that makes people dumb by blocking their minds..
i suffer to find a person that knows a few words of english, unless you’re in a major city,
the turkish media and the education system is destroying generation after generation,
I mean growing up in IRAQ i thought the people were stuck ups there, but no
i mean if i compare it to here it’s a shame..And even being under saddam our education system
was and still british, regular schools teach english from 1st grade, some from 5th they won’t speak it well but they would have an idea, it’s really up to them weather to learn it fluently or not, and the media there
would NEVER slay an english spoken TV show or a Movie by dubbing, all you would see is captions
it resulted in making whoever visits iraq comfortable and never gets lost because if people don’t speak it well
they would at least show you the directions IN ENGLISH well i’m talking when it was a somewhat normal country. I feel so alone , i learned some turkish phrases but
yeah, it barely gets me by for cigarettes buying etc
Johnny,
Mrsambasa Says:
i am really sorry for u gays. if ure talking about brain wash education in turkey i mean u dont know anything about turkey plus most important thing is if u gays dont know anything about ATATURK, ure more than idiot i am really sorry for u gays . ATATURK is the leader who had victories from France, England, Italy ( this list will go up and up). this must be the reason i think ure talking like that about him. THAKS TO SOME OF U BCS URE REALLY KNOW WHO IS HE. gerizekali olupta turk olmakta zor arkadaslar oyle atip tuttugunuz adam sizin nenenize girecek fransiz ingiliz italyan seylerinden kurtardi biraz adam olun. tepki vereceginize ulkeniz insanindan idiot diye bahsediyorsunuz.
Ozan Kayikci Says:
Well, saying “we are idiots” is not actually a nice thing, but the correct act should not be ignoring.
We are totally brainwashed, our system makes every single movement like it’s trying to leave us in ignorance. Denying that wont do any good. Turkey is not only you or your friends or relatives etc.
Atatürk is not a person to be discussed. And I would be glad if Nikita explains what she meant by saying 10.000s getting killed? Hope you didn’t say that about our independence war?
But I would like to hear what you mentioned. May be you have a point to listen, but at the beginning we should remember that Ataturk’s one of the most used mottas is “Peace at home, Peace in the World.” Also saying, if not for independence, war is the most stupid and disgusting thing in the world. Anyway, I’m not here to defend Ataturk, and he does not need to, history tells everything. But I would like to hear your point if you read this.
Freedom of speech is one of the biggest issues we just couldn’t handle in Turkey. That is a fact. You cant criticise many things, may be not by law but by public react you would step back.
But, insulting a nations leader, a nations “saviour”, a nations founder, a nations chief-teacher, is neither an idea nor deserves freedom to. If you wanna talk about blocking Youtube beacuse it has a video which was not suitable, fine, thats great. This is showing us the laws considering the cyber world is not understood by Turkish law, that Youtube is an uploaded-content site.
But, Ataturk’s being not criticiseable, is a different issue and shouldn’t be involved before learning about him a lot. After that, you would see that you have nothing to criticise.. He is not Roosevelt or anyone whose name can be seen near him. He is not just a leader..
Thanks for reading.
volkan Says:
sorry about this but I think I should write in turkish about this subject.
Merhaba arkadaşlar.Konu hakkında kendi dilimizde bir iki kelime de ben etmek istedim.Sonuç olarak böyle bir eylemi evrensele yaymamız yada açıklama getirmeye çalışmamız pek akıl karı değil.Elimizde bir internet sitesinin yürürlükteki bir veya birkaç yasaya muhalefet etmesinden dolayı mahkeme kararı ile, tc anayasasının hükümlerinin geçerli olduğu bölgelerde bireysel yada toplu olarak erişiminin engellenmesi durumu var.Bir akış diagramı oluşturursak; yasa koyucu bir yasayı yürürlüğe sokar, bireysel bir dilekçeyle veya savcılık tarafından bu yürürlükteki yasaya atfen mahkemeye müraacat edilir, ilgili makam dilekçedeki bahsi yürürlükteki anayasa ve kanunlar çerçevesinde inceler ve olumlu ya da olumsuz bir karara vararak gerekli birimlere tebliğ eder ve bu birimlerde uygulamanın gerçekleşmesini sağlar.Basitçe mahşerin 3 kendini bilmezi yasama-yürütme-yargı. Yani uygulamada hukuka aykırı hiçbir durum görülmemektedir.Türkiye hukuk devletidir, tabiki herkes kanunlara, anayasaya, hukuka riayet etmelidir.Peki ama bir kısım şuursuz(!) beyinleri kıllandıran(aslında kıllandırmaktan çok ilk başta yararcasına güldüren , devamının gelmesi üzerine -yok artık, allalla, yuh, nassı yani ruhiyetine sokan) terslik nedir? Terslik mantıksaldır.Bir takım şuursuz beyinlerin mantıksal çözümlemesi ile bu tür bir uygulamanın vahamiyeti ve doğaya aykırılığının barizliğidir.Youtube yasağını baz alırsak “70 milyona sorduk youtube yasaklansın mı?” referandumunda en az %60 “EVET” in çıkabileceği durumu bize birşeyler anlatmaya çalışmaktadır.Ülkemizde düşünce yapısını; şovenizmden, dogmalardan, korkudan ve dinden arındırabilmiş; evrensel düzeyde bilimsel çözümlemeler ortaya koyabilen birey sayısı azınlıktadır (ki bunun iq ile bir alakası yoktur toplumların gelişim süreci ile alakalıdır).Azınlıkların yasa koyucu konumunda olabilmesi ise şu anki rejimimiz ile mümkün görülmemektedir.Zaten azınlık yönetiminin de emperyalizmin ortaya koyduğu bir model olduğu düşünülürse bahsi geçen azınlığın böylebir azınlık olmadığı barizdir.Peki sormazlar mı adama “tamamda nedir yani neden? ne zaman? nasıl?”
TC devleti tarihi boyunca sadece bir devrim görmüştür; Kurtuluş Savaşı.Emperyalist güçlere karşı verilen bir bağımsızlık mücadelesi.Yapılması gereken yapılmış fakat ne yazık ki bu derece ağır bir rejim değişikliğini kaldırabilecek toplumsal altyapının oluşturulamamasının sonucu olarak çok partili sisteme geçişin ardından 60 darbesi ile sistem sallanmış olsada biraz kabaca TC tarihinin gördüğü tek devrimin bu güne yansıması, ikonlaşan bir Atatürk ve ayrı bir din olarak algılanan Atatürkçülüktür. M.Kemal Atatürk’ün aslında bir devrim lideri olduğu, (ilginçtir evrim kelimesinden hazzetmeyen bünyeler devrim kelimesine de mesafelidir) Kurtuluş Savaşının da bir devrim olduğu topluma ya hiç öğretilmemiş ya da unutturulmuştur(İnkılap tarihi dersinin devrim tarihi olduğunu öğreten öğretmene saygı duyarım).Bu hafıza kaybının da uzun uzadıya irdelemeden dogmatik kavramlar yüzünden olduğu söylenebilir.Evet Cumhuriyet tarihine bir devrim daha lazımdır.Toplumsal gelişimimizi tamamlayabileceğimiz bir devrim.Argümanlarının; özgürlük, eşitlik, kardeşlik olduğu toplumsal bir devinim.Günümüz devrimlerine bakıldığında (bkz. turuncu devrim) şekli ve yöntemi , benim bu yazıyı kaleme aldığım ortamda göz önüne alınırsa, klasik şekilde olmayacaktır.
Bob Says:
Can’t you speak English ? ooh I know you’re turkish. Try to invent something instead of wasting time.
Name 1 (one) thing Turkey has contributed to the world in the last 100 years (besides ayran and doner)
See ya…
Osman S Borutecene Says:
@bob, it’s not a matter whether Turkey has contributed something to the world or not. even if Turkey had contributed enormous amount of knowledge, invention, etc. it would be again not a right thing to exercise that censorship.
Mrsambasa Says:
ure asking CANT U Speak english? stupid man wht is it? is english fucking world language?
volkan Says:
bob, invent this.
__
I I
I I
I—-I
I I
I I
I I
I I
I—-II II—-II—-I
I II II II I
I II II II I
I II II II I
I II II II I
Melis Says:
I am turkish. I think that blocking youtube because of an insulting video towards Ataturk is terribly wrong. I love and respect Ataturk. He has done so much to our country, he has given so much. So instead of blocking youtube I would have liked the chance to be able respond to the people who put that video there. To help them understand that what they did was wrong. Blocking youtube in turkey is just what theese guys wanted. This way they win. And even though we dont see the video other countrys do. I think turkish people know ataturk enough to not believe in this kind of stuff but foreign people dont know this. Most of them probably dont know ataturk and that is sad. We should fight instead just like always our country chooses what is the easiest. Not only us but every single person should know the person he was. Ataturk hep kalbimizde.
Melis Says:
By the way bob Ataturk was a great contribution to the world we can learn a lot of things from him. Maybe u should too.. What did america contribute? The murder of thousands of people in Iraq, Vietnam….
